Dr. Dena Simmons, the founder of LiberatED, a collective focused on developing school-based resources at the intersection of social and emotional learning, racial justice, and healing joins Elena in an uplifting conversation about healing, authenticity, imposter syndrome, hope and play. This is an episode for BIPOC educators who have been made to feel like they don’t belong.  

Mentioned in this episode: 

• The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness and Healing in a Toxic Culture, Gabor Maté
• Dena’s TED Talks 
• The Ways of White Folks, Langston Hughes
• Atlanta
• Abbot Elementary 
• Dena’s forthcoming book, White Rules for Black People 

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